From “Shave ’Em Dry” to City Girls: Why People Still Fear Black Women’s Pleasure
Nov 12, 2025 | By: Velvet Lenae
Sweet·Raw·Sticky- November Series, Part 2 (Read Part 1 Here)
Every time a Black woman drops a pleasure-centered song, Megan, Doja, Trina, City Girls, Sexxy Red, Khia, even back in the day Lil' Kim, the internet suddenly becomes holy.
"Music wasn't like this back in the day."
Yes. It was.
You just weren't listening to the Black women who weren't allowed on your radio.
Then vs Now: It's the same song
Let’s line it up.
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Then: Lucille Bogan – “Shave ’Em Dry” (1935) → “I got somethin’ between my legs…”
Now: Khia – “My Neck, My Back” / Trina – “Pull Over” / City Girls – “Pussy Talk”
Same energy: “I enjoy sex and I’m not whispering.” -
Then: Bessie Smith – “Kitchen Man” (1929) → food = sex, woman enjoying it
Now: Jazmine Sullivan & Ari Lennox – “On It”
Same energy: “I like what you do to me.” -
Then: Ma Rainey – “Prove It On Me Blues” (1928) → “yeah, I was out with women”
Now: Kehlani, Janelle Monáe, Young M.A
Same energy: Queer Black desire has always existed. It was just coded then. -
Then: Blue Lu Barker – “Don’t You Feel My Leg” (1938) → tease + boundary
Now: Janet – “Any Time, Any Place” or Doja – “Say So”
Same energy: Sensuality with control.
So if it's the same energy...why is it still controversial in 2025?
1. Because Black Women's pleasure is still seen as a threat
Black Women's sexuality has always been policed first by racism, then by respectability, then by the church, and now by the internet. A Black woman who:
- enjoys sex,
- chooses sex,
- or makes money from sex coded content...
...disrupts the "respectable Black woman" image that some people are still trying to protect.
That's why dirty blues got pushed underground.
That's why City Girls get called "bad for the culture" while men can rap about the exact same thing.
That's why Sexxy Red gets called "ghetto" instead of "in the lineage of Lucille Bogan."
It's not the lyrics. It's who's saying them.
2. Because a lot of us inherited church/purity culture
Here's the part we don't always admit. Some of the shame isn't even ours. We inherited it.
We were raised on:
- "Don't be fast"
- "Good girls don't do that"
- "Your body is a temple"
- "Wait until marriage"
But nobody told us that at the exact same time these messages were circulating, Black women were in juke joints singing about getting pleased. So we grew up thinking sexual freedom was "new" or "worldly"...when actually it's Black and historic.
That tension is what makes people comment things like,
"Music is too nasty now."
No. We just have louder microphones.
3 Because we profit from it now
This is a big one.
When Lucille Bogan recorded "Shave 'Em Dry," it wasn't going to make her TikTok money. It was community music, juke music, Black misunderstood music.
But now? Black women can go viral, chart, tour and sell beauty/lingerie/OnlyFans/Patreon off erotic branding.
And whenever Black women profit from something that was supposed to shame us, folks get loud.
This is why songs about men's pleasure rarely go viral for "being too explicit," but songs about our pleasure do. It's more than being about "morality," it's about power.
4. Because our pleasure is finally centered, not background
A lot of older love songs positioned women as the beautiful recipient of a man's desire.
Dirty blues...and now modern female rap/R&B...flips it:
- I want it
- I like it
- Here's how
- Here's when
- Here's how long
- Here's what you're gonna do
That's Sweet·Raw·Sticky right there:
- Sweet → we deserve desire framed lovingly.
- Raw → tell the truth about what this body needs.
- Sticky → say it so well it stays in people’s mouths.
And that's what scares people. Not the sex, but the self definition.
5. So, are we getting nastier?
No.
We're getting clearer. We're getting louder. We're getting paid.
"Black women's erotic expression is not a decline in morals. It's a return to an interrupted tradition."
When we post sensual content, do erotic podcasts, sell sex ed classes, or drop songs about pleasure...we are finishing a conversation our grandmothers started in blues.
Gratitude Drop
I'm grateful for every woman who sang it when it wasn't safe.
I'm grateful for the ones who had to record the "clean" version and the "real" version.
I'm grateful for the queer blues singers whose names didn't make radio.
We get to be bold because they got banned.
Drop a name in the comments.
Which "now" artist do you want me to pair with a "then" artist? I'll break it down in part 3.
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